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The number of fingers on the hand in the vision is unclear; photographs of the phenomenon suggest that it has four, but other media, such as the drawing in [[nooneimportant]]'s mailbox or the [[:Image:MVH_lin.gif|spectrographic image]] contained in [[My Violent Heart]], clearly show five. The hand could possibly be curled slightly in the four fingered versions, as this would cause the pinky finger to be covered by the palm.
 
On February 24, 2007, a YouTube user called [http://www.youtube.com/user/takeparepin takeparepin] posted a [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBf2gyCT_qY&NR=1 Youtube clip] of the Presence. The fingers appear to be four.
The Presence concept seems to reference one stanza of "[[The Wretched]]" from ''[[The Fragile (halo)|The Fragile]]'':
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