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Have a look at the "Act's Of Resistance" topic on the another version of the truth site. Above ChicagoAnon's third entry you can start to see a reproduction of the post's date in the backdrop. From that point down I swear I see the reproducted dates reading 02/04/0000 instead of the dates actual post 02/10/0000. The visible times remain the same. I'm not sure if this has been noted already, and if it may just be an error in design. This is also frequent in other topics of the site, aswell as typed over the date on the "cops murder muslim kid" topic in the main forum. Also note in the fractured reproduction of the "Violent Resistance" topic at the base of the main forum also reads 02/04/0000. Does this mean that all posts were done on this date?

yup

You're right. Just below the actual post. 02/04/000 12:32. And just below Chicago's previous post, you can see the numbers 02/04.

And in the very first post on that topic, just above the first line, you can see the numbers 14/0000/06 - whatever that means, if it means anything.

Cool.

I wonder then if that Slaughterhouse-five novel's time travel theme has something to do with the altered dates. I've never read it myself. Oh yeah and on the main forum the zero in the ten looks more like an O to me, being different to the rest of the zero'sin the date. Anyways... What I'm really trying to do atm is see if i can find the new image components from yearzero.nin.com in any of the other pages. Anyone found them yet?

Please sign your names by using the signature button above the edit text box, or by typing --~~~~. --Tony 19:50, 21 February 2007 (PST)

Site Down

Decided to check back at anotherversionofthetruth.com at aprox. 10:05am today.

The site was down, just black. I even used another compter and connection. I wonder if it's gone for good or if this is only temporary?

Works for me. Pomte 12:03, 23 February 2007 (PST)

Previously Mentioned Lyrics

Well, since the Year Zero leak has surfaced, it's basically been confirmed that the mentioned lyrics in the "End of the World?" forum topic are referring to "Meet Your Master", not "Head Like a Hole". Anyone want to edit this in? I'm not sure if we should keep the HLAH reference or not... -- ThePresence 21:08, 5 April 2007 (PDT)

Site down for a bit today

I was trying to show my one friend this page today and it was down. It happened around 7pm Eastern US time. It is back up now, but seems slightly different. I cannot pin point how it seems different, but it just does. Maybe it is just me getting too into this.

RKTurbo (Dave) April 11, 2007 11:28PM

How

I don't understand some of those clues, how does n1* etc = 3168? Plus that goldaward url was bogus, some people might type goldmedal (like I did) and get nothing. BIG SCREWUP it seems -Velvolver 08:42, 17 April 2007 (PDT)

If you discount the first number on the page (the 5 that says which page number it is) and start with n1 = 11, n2 = 4, n3 = 36, and n4 = 2, which makes 11*4*36*2 = 3168. Also, the Gold Award is the highest award in Girl Scouting (that was the only reason I got around to finding it, as a former GS myself), which is something you totally don't forget. --Jen 12:33, 17 April 2007 (PDT)

How does Past, Present = ~??????! And who the hell is the cabbage king?!-Velvolver 09:37, 17 April 2007 (PDT)

All I can figure on this one is that the tilde is approximately half of an infinity sign (symbolizing past, present, and future), so it's showing past and present, but no future? And the cabbage king is referring to "Old King Cole" who was a 'merry old soul' as the rhyme goes, as cole slaw is primarily cabbage. --Jen 12:33, 17 April 2007 (PDT)
Wtf, this arg site is completely sexist. If the answer was freakin merit badge, maybe. Also I have never heard a rhyme about king cole or cabbage. THIS ARG SUCKSSSS! -Velvolver 13:57, 17 April 2007 (PDT)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_King_Cole <-- Here's the wikipedia article about Old King Cole...it's a nursery rhyme --Jen 21:09, 17 April 2007 (PDT)
Well, the character providing the "Zero Pages" is female, so it seems reasonable to be written from her perspective.--Mr z 12:16, 12 May 2007 (PDT)

I COMPLETELY agree with Velvolver... I have NO idea how some of these 'clues' led to the next page. If someone, especially the person who posted them, could explain how the 'clues' led to the next page, that would be great... And I don't know who the Cabbage King is... :) Sorry... Jgrizzy89 09:55, 17 April 2007 (PDT)

Tilde...I mean, I just don't get it. You can test every single word on a page if you get stuck on one (for most pages that is) but some of the others are just like, wtf?

My thoughts on connections

Here's my thoughts on how each page leads to the next put together in one place:

"opposite" on http://www.anotherversionofthetruth.com/0/

   Since the word "work" is highlighted, "play" is what comes to mind

"it has six letters, all in alphabetical order" on http://www.anotherversionofthetruth.com/0/play/

   This one I found simply by reading and rereading the passage until "glossy" finally stood out

"what you really want to be remembered for" on http://www.anotherversionofthetruth.com/0/glossy/

   At first I thought it had something to do with her ice skating, but upon re-reading, you notice that "Girl 
   Scouts" is highlighted, hence "goldaward" (the highest award in Girl Scouting, similar to the Boy Scout Eagle, 
   but harder, in my opinion)

"made up of the same four letters, repeated." on http://www.anotherversionofthetruth.com/0/goldaward/

   Now, don't be fooled into thinking this means four letters with some of them repeated, it means all of them 
   repeated, hence "hotshots"

"the missing direction" on http://www.anotherversionofthetruth.com/0/hotshots/

   Reading through the site you find "up", "down", and "right" leaving "left" as the missing one

"N1*N2*N3*N4" on http://www.anotherversionofthetruth.com/0/left/

   Playing with the numbers on the page and my calculator shows that you start at the first number that isn't the 
   page index (in this case 5) and multiply them together:  11*4*36*2 = 3168

"Adding 1 letter to the end turns a 1 syllable word to 3" on http://www.anotherversionofthetruth.com/0/3168/

   This was a stumper, so I'm not going to lie, I tried every combination I could think of, but just couldn't come 
   up with one that worked until I pounded it out to find "cameo"

"...fear of..." on http://www.anotherversionofthetruth.com/0/cameo/

   This page prominently features the side affects of "copper", and when you look through the words "big open 
   spaces feel" are framed by ellipses, and the word for the fear of such spaces is "agoraphobia"

"It has 7 musical notes" on http://www.anotherversionofthetruth.com/0/agoraphobia

   Originally I was thinking of a musical scale, but since "scale" didn't work, i thought of what the note names 
   are (a, b, c, d, e, f, and g) and started looking for seven letter words completely comprised of these letters 
   and found "baggage"

"made up of one of one, two of another and three of a third." on http://www.anotherversionofthetruth.com/0/baggage/

   This was found though looking through the words for one comprised of one of a single letter, two of a different 
   letter, and three of another, which yielded "tattoo" (one 'a', two 'o's, and three 't's)

"+zinc" on http://www.anotherversionofthetruth.com/0/tattoo/

   Originally I was "ha!  vitamin!"  then, that seemed really silly.  Upon another rereading, my bare chemistry 
   knowledge poked me to remind me that copper and zinc form..."brass"

"able was I ere…" on http://www.anotherversionofthetruth.com/0/brass/

   Plugging the phrase into Google seemed a wise choice, as it seemed familiar, but I couldn't quite place it, so I
   found many sites referring to palindromes, of which you find "radar" on the page

"all the vowels" on http://www.anotherversionofthetruth.com/0/radar/

   Ah the fun of words with all five vowels..."equation"

"cabbage king's mood" on http://www.anotherversionofthetruth.com/0/equation/

   Since the text mentions cole slaw (the main ingredient of which is...cabbage!), my mind jumped to Old King Cole,
   a nursery rhyme with the line about him being a "merry old soul" ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_King_Cole 
   )...hence, "merry"

"past present" on http://www.anotherversionofthetruth.com/0/merry/

   Originally I was like, huh, maybe something to do with time, and infinity so, part of infinity looks sorta like 
   a tilde!  Yeah, that was pretty lucky, but on rethinking and looking at the page again, I saw that the words 
   "swing" and "dashed" were highlighted ("something" as well, but it was a link, so I guess I discounted it).  So, 
   these should technically correspond to the clue, as the other highlighted text has in this sequence.  So:  
   swing --> swung and dashed --> dash gives you "swung dash" which (when plugged into Google for the fun of it) 
   shares that this is another name for the tilde

"works backwards" on http://www.anotherversionofthetruth.com/0/~

   Really, the only word on the page that works for this is "lived", which gives us "devil", which leads you to the 
   end of this exciting puzzle.


EDIT: Of all the places I didn't think to look, heh, but there's some really great discussion on http://www.echoingthesound.org about how they found stuff, if you want a different explanation.

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